noxe escribió:

Why do you keep saying Oral exam in stead of speaking part / speaking exam?¿
This is the firts time I hear it.

Comercial letter:

*What is the rules to write a comercial letters?¿

We hereby invoice as following / follow?¿?
We hereby  + infinitive verb?¿

Hi Noxe!  

You don't say "speaking exam" in English, although it is understandable and it is not incorrect grammatically speaking.  However there are certain "fixed" structures (they are called COLLOCATIONS) that must be kept the way they are, just because.  You can say ORAL EXAM, ORAL SKILLS, but not SPEAKING EXAM, SPEAKING TEST OR SPEAKING SKILLS, this is not the way English people say it, so if you are learning a language you must stick to what natives use.




See you!  

noxe escribió:

Hi Helike!!

Yeah!!! Exactly I am the monky Chita....   with big and strong arms     
Well, as I told you I used to practice alot of sport until when I was 20 (aaaaaagess  agooo..) and I was in a very good form and agile.
Last thing I did was swimming pool, 4 year ago, and to be honest, I need to do some sport, that why I am starting at least  a dance.
and because i did not practice any for long time, I spent a very hard time in my way to Santiago, 1 year ago, oh, my god!! I wanted to die...

Am I going to do sometime the clambing?¿?       I am so exiting just right now..... , let me to calm down a bit....please      would you, would you?¿?  

Do you like running?¿ that is one of the sport that I can not continue doing once I start, because I just get bored.... what it your secreto to keep going?¿ maybe in a while I might to do a little bit, for a start....

No, I am not going anywhere. I will stay and try to make use of the time to study, I am so back on my studies....  

Anyway, you enjoy alot your trip !!! and tell us your history when you come back.....  is it raining?¿

Take care a lot, hope to hear from you soon.  

Hi little.

I'm very glad to see you again.

The journey was good, but it could be better -too many people, and not all of them wanted to do the same-.

The weather respect us... well, sometimes a bit of wind and it rain once.

It's a nice place to visit, but a half of the spanish people was there, so it seemed Barcelona or Madrid.
A day, I went to visit Cabo da Roca, the most occidental place in europe, uf... it was absolutely amaizing.
Even I parcticed my English, because I met a American boy, and we spoke a short time, and it was great because I understood all he told me and he said to me that my English was good.
If you behave well, I might send you some photo. jaja. It's a joke.

Did you walk the Santiago's Way? Me too. Didn't you like it? For me was one of the best experiences in my life. I've been three times, and I hope going again.

By the way, when you want to climb, you only have to tell me. I'll teach you, and I'm sure you are going to enjoy very much. It's so... so... so... it's absolutely breathtaking.

How about yours studies? Have you had a good S.Santa?

Cheers, sunny.

noxe escribió:

Comercial letter:

*What is the rules to write a comercial letters?¿

We hereby invoice as following / follow?¿?
We hereby  + infinitive verb?¿

Hi noxe, Saskia has explained very well the reason why we say Oral Exam. I agree with Saskia. It is the way it is said and it will only confuse you if you try to find a reason why it is like that.

On the subject of comercial letters, I think it is important to know what kind of business is being transacted before anyone can say how the letter should be constructed.  The word "hereby" looks very strange in a letter except if you are demanding payment or beginning legal proceedings against somone. You need to be specific in your question and give the context of the letter that you might wish to write.

For us to give general instructions on how to write business letters here in the forum it would be like writing a book on the subject.

Good luck with your studies and please continue to post your questions here in Idiomas.

OG

Hi Helike, nice to hear from you!!!
 and seems like you have enjoyed your holidays.
I have looked up in google some pictures of cabo da Roca, and as I can see it  is really nice place.
It was a good oportunity for you that you practiced your english, now you have a reference for your next oral test.

did you walk 3 times the Santiago's way?¿ 3 times, the whole way?¿  
I only spent a week , and I meet somebody who had walked it 5 times , I would like to go back for a week at least,  to continue my way, I can tell you for sure that was one of my best experience that I ever had, and would say that would not have it again.

Thank you for your invitation, I will keep it in mind. I will tell you..
Is it a known area where you go to climb? Is it nice? what about the mountain, is it high?
Too many questions, but as you know if you are inviting somebody you should tell how is like it, do you think so?¿

I need to take very seriously my studies if I want to past the exams.

Take care.

Helike, can you let me know something?¿

What kind of exercise do you do at school to improve the oral part.
How is like the exam.
Why did you not past your exam?¿
What was the reason that you got from your teacher.?¿
Apart of you need to practice more ( I suppose...)

Can you tell me something else that I have not thought?

Thank you.

Noxe, just one more thing about "speaking exam" >> if you said this, it'd mean that the exam is able to speak...which is not the case...is it?  

Hi little.

well, last time you made me many questions, so, I'm trying to answer all of them.

I went to walk the Santiago's Way, 3 times but I only reached Santiago once, because I began in Burgos, and after 3 years I get arrive there. It took me arround 2 and half weeks more or less.
The first year was for me very important because I met a lot of interesting people who made my mind change the way of thinking. After that I'm not the same person (I think, or at least a bit different).

Where I go to climb is a known area for the people who climb, and although as I think you know I live in Elche, and this is a arid place, where I go, usually is really nice.
For example, "Sella". It's in a green forest valley, betwen two high walls where the people practice this sport. But It isn't the only place here.

The mountains, here aren't too high but we have two of them very nice because they are about 1400 m. or 1500m. but in front of the sea, so in a clear day, from there you can see Ibiza.
One of them is hard to go to the top, but the another one, has a long way but quite easy. They are Aitana (the tallest) and Puig Campana (the hardest).


At school, to improve our speaking we only do oral and simple exercises, but using the grammar or the vocabulary we are studying in this moment, so, it is the same that you and me can do speaking. We are many in class so the teachar can't correct all of us.

The oral exam has two parts. In one of them you have to speake about a picture they gave you 5 mins before, using all the vocabulary and grammar that they expect you know in your level, and the another one is chat with a partner about some topic they give you too. A quarter or 20 mins more or less.

I didn't pass my last oral exam, because I didn't use enough vocabulary and grammar they thought  I should know, and in September I didn't went to do the exam because mi head didn't work very well. I thought in other thinks.

The last two questions, I don't understand that you want to tell me. Please, try to explain me better.

Well, I'm going to have a rest.

Kisses little.

Hi I would like to tell you that I am very pleased and grateful for your  loooong letter, and I  will answer you when  I get the chance.

Hélike escribió:

Hi little.

Well, I'm going to have a rest.

Kisses little.

Have you rested yet??       I just feel guilty..

noxe escribió:

Hi I would like to tell you that I am very pleased and grateful for your  loooong letter, and I  will answer you when  I get the chance.

Hélike escribió:

Hi little.

Well, I'm going to have a rest.

Kisses little.

Have you rested yet??       I just feel guilty..

No, jejeje, you don't have to feel guilty. I needed a rest and I still need a rest because I have too many thinks to do every day and I'm tired.

You don't get me tired. You make me glad.

Don't worry about the answer. Maybe, you should study to pass your exam.
You'll be able to answer it later, or another day.

Let me make you a question. What are you studying? opos?

Regards little. Kisses.

Hélike escribió:

Hi little.

well, last time you made me many questions, so, I'm trying to answer all of them.

Hi Hélike, I'm offering one suggestion to improve your text. I hope you don't mind.

"well, last time you asked me many questions, so, I'm trying to answer all of them."

Hélike escribió:

noxe escribió:

Hi I would like to tell you that I am very pleased and grateful for your  loooong letter, and I  will answer you when  I get the chance.

Hélike escribió:

Hi little.

Well, I'm going to have a rest.

Kisses little.

Have you rested yet??       I just feel guilty..

No, jejeje, you don't have to feel guilty. I needed a rest and I still need a rest because I have too many thinks to do every day and I'm tired.

You don't get me tired. You make me glad.

Don't worry about the answer. Maybe, you should study to pass your exam.
You'll be able to answer it later, or another day.

Let me make you a question. What are you studying? opos?

Regards little. Kisses.

thank you for your words,
I keep in mind to write you a letter, just I woud like to say a lot of things, some ideas and try to put them in order....

I am studing administration and finances, first year in Junta ...  

maybe you can give me some idea as well, thay why I asked you to mnay queestion about your english study, a part to writte to each other.....

Everybody who I talk with about Santiago`s way say the same, one of their best experience and also it has changed  their way of thinking...... one of the guy I met, when He reached Santiago  he sent me a message when he got there telling me his fellings, I so jelousl. ..... and now I can not see when I could go back to do a bit, but that week I spent it was very important for me and even It was a short time, it was enough......
Oh acctually!!!, a couple of girls I met during the way they are going back this summer, but unfortunately I am not available for that date. .. (shit) I might go back another date this year...

Have looked up in google the place you are talking about where you go to climb, it is  seems very nice.... have you got a picture.?    Any way, You must be an expert in climbing, are you in for long time already? Do you think that I would be able to do a bit of that mountain?¿  

Oh acctually!! I apologize not to answer you sooner, but because I was trying to make up my mind how I  could drive  my super for K    to Elche to visit you and start to climb this weekend,  and after spending a few hours thinking and having a headeach I decided to  leave it for next time, to far away.......


pd: I will write you for your english study, and see waht do you think...

OGrady escribió:

Hélike escribió:

Hi little.

well, last time you made me many questions, so, I'm trying to answer all of them.

Hi Hélike, I'm offering one suggestion to improve your text. I hope you don't mind.

"well, last time you asked me many questions, so, I'm trying to answer all of them."

Of course, I don't mind at all. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm trying to get better every day, so, your help is very important for me.

Thanks again.

Cheers.

Hi little.

You shouldn't worry about to write soon or not.
Every one has many things to do every day, and perhaps, you or I can't write in a couple or more days.
Of course I like reading you, but I know you have to study, like I only can write to you when I am at work, so many times it is impossible.

I have many pictures about Sella, but they are at home, another day I'll send you some of them.
Sella, isn't the only place where we go to climb, but for me it's one of the nicest places in this area. Well, the "Vallecito" like we call it, is another beautiful place, and it's next to Orihuela.

I'm not a expert climbing, actually, I began last July, and we stop 2 moths in winter, so I'm not very good, but now I'm climbing often, and I'm getting a good level in a short time. Morover, I always go with my friends, and they've climbed since 2000 more or less, so they are very good.

Of course you can climb some wall. We practice Sportive Climbing, and in every place you can find a different level ways, and for someone who begin, it isn't dangerous at all, because you climb in second place.
Don't worry, If you decide to prove it, it'll be a great experience.

If you want to come, tell me with enough time, because, we not always go to climb in easy places, and if I know it before, I can decide the best place.
By the way, Do you know this area?Have you been in Elche sometime?

But it's enaugh to speak about my hobbies. What about you?
I know, you are studying adm. and finances in Junta, you're begining to do some exercise and the brand of your car, but nothing else.

About the way, I have to tell you, arriving Santiago, is an amazing experience, but from Sárria to Santiago I didn't enjoy de way very much, because there are too many people.

About the speaking English. Do you mind to try to have a contact by internet?
The main problem is my short time, but if you agree, I'll find a day or time, who are good for both.

Kisses little.